Comments on: J.D.’s Top 10 Movies that Prove the Future Will Suck http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/ Movies with Rock Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:02:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: joshow http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-6870 joshow Fri, 30 May 2008 03:28:17 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-6870 what about BRAZIL??? the end of the movie haunts me. what about BRAZIL??? the end of the movie haunts me.

]]> By: crash http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-6836 crash Thu, 29 May 2008 20:06:11 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-6836 why isnt idiocracy on the list not only is it a great movie but shows us somthing else about devolution and what could happen if we do not pay attention to smarts why isnt idiocracy on the list not only is it a great movie but shows us somthing else about devolution and what could happen if we do not pay attention to smarts

]]> By: bengrimes http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4758 bengrimes Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:07:45 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4758 since we've brought up the issues of books/films, I'd like to mention the heartbreaking shortage of Arthur C Clarke and Robert Heinlein adaptations. The few Heinleins we've seen have been laughable. If a decent director (I'm looking at YOU, Cuaron! I'm NOT looking at you, Ratner!) would tackle stories like Methuselah's Children, Between Planets, Stranger in a Strange Land, Childhood's End (good mention, JD!), Earthlight, The City & The Stars, and so on and so on, we could do 100 of these lists. But I guess Hollywood has a knack for fucking up golden age sci-fi... maybe its for the best they aren't adapting these after all. So... I'd like to nominate 2001: a space odyssey as a runner-up for your list. It has sociopathic homocidal AI and nobody really ever talks. And trips floating across the surface of the moon are looooooooooooong (albeit beautifully shot). ok done. since we’ve brought up the issues of books/films, I’d like to mention the heartbreaking shortage of Arthur C Clarke and Robert Heinlein adaptations. The few Heinleins we’ve seen have been laughable. If a decent director (I’m looking at YOU, Cuaron! I’m NOT looking at you, Ratner!) would tackle stories like Methuselah’s Children, Between Planets, Stranger in a Strange Land, Childhood’s End (good mention, JD!), Earthlight, The City & The Stars, and so on and so on, we could do 100 of these lists.

But I guess Hollywood has a knack for fucking up golden age sci-fi… maybe its for the best they aren’t adapting these after all.

So… I’d like to nominate 2001: a space odyssey as a runner-up for your list. It has sociopathic homocidal AI and nobody really ever talks. And trips floating across the surface of the moon are looooooooooooong (albeit beautifully shot).

ok done.

]]> By: CallmeKelly http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4720 CallmeKelly Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:39:57 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4720 I completely agree with you about 12 Monkees being overlooked. I loved this movie. I also loved Minority Report and I'm a woman who doesn't always love Sci-fi. Matrix is my all time fav sci-fi movie though. It's #1 on my lists. http://onmylists.blogspot.com/ if you want to check it out. I completely agree with you about 12 Monkees being overlooked. I loved this movie. I also loved Minority Report and I’m a woman who doesn’t always love Sci-fi. Matrix is my all time fav sci-fi movie though. It’s #1 on my lists. http://onmylists.blogspot.com/ if you want to check it out.

]]> By: J.D. Warnock http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4665 J.D. Warnock Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:37:58 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4665 I'm mostly with Jambon. I think the source material for a movie is valuable to a critique, but films and books are simply not the same thing. They have a dynamic relationship with varying degrees of connectivity. I love this movie, and I have not read the book. So, frankly I could give a crap whether Spielberg followed Dick's novel exactly or even closely. In absolutely every instance there are going to be fans of literature who are completely unsatisfied with cinematic adaptations of books, it's impossible to avoid. I tend to feel more frustration when liberties are taken with established characters, rather than questionable story choices that arguably work better on screen. Messing with character histories is an irritating fact inherent in comic book adaptations, which fairly consistently change critical details. Because the characters in comics have such rich and developed histories it's impossible to bring those kinds of characters to the big screen without ignoring huge chunks of their stories. On the other hand, Peter Jackson's "Lord of the Rings" trilogy is a brilliant example of cinema that made vast adjustments from book to screen, but maintained the essence of Tolkien's masterwork in its adapted narrative. Jackson had the sense to respect the source material and I'm pretty comfortable trusting that Spielberg did the same, but as usual, he changed elements that some fans just can't live without. Alan, your experience with the film is no less valid than mine, it's just completely different. I'm a film critic and I thought "Minority Report," the movie, was fantastic. I’m mostly with Jambon. I think the source material for a movie is valuable to a critique, but films and books are simply not the same thing. They have a dynamic relationship with varying degrees of connectivity. I love this movie, and I have not read the book. So, frankly I could give a crap whether Spielberg followed Dick’s novel exactly or even closely. In absolutely every instance there are going to be fans of literature who are completely unsatisfied with cinematic adaptations of books, it’s impossible to avoid. I tend to feel more frustration when liberties are taken with established characters, rather than questionable story choices that arguably work better on screen. Messing with character histories is an irritating fact inherent in comic book adaptations, which fairly consistently change critical details. Because the characters in comics have such rich and developed histories it’s impossible to bring those kinds of characters to the big screen without ignoring huge chunks of their stories. On the other hand, Peter Jackson’s “Lord of the Rings” trilogy is a brilliant example of cinema that made vast adjustments from book to screen, but maintained the essence of Tolkien’s masterwork in its adapted narrative. Jackson had the sense to respect the source material and I’m pretty comfortable trusting that Spielberg did the same, but as usual, he changed elements that some fans just can’t live without. Alan, your experience with the film is no less valid than mine, it’s just completely different. I’m a film critic and I thought “Minority Report,” the movie, was fantastic.

]]> By: Alan Rapp http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4641 Alan Rapp Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:35:23 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4641 I'll admit it's not a fresh argument, but when the movie is put #1 on a list like this, I would say that makes it a relevant point to be discussed. And I don't think you discount the original form which was responsible for the film simply because one has become more widely known than the other. Without the first you wouldn't have the second. I’ll admit it’s not a fresh argument, but when the movie is put #1 on a list like this, I would say that makes it a relevant point to be discussed. And I don’t think you discount the original form which was responsible for the film simply because one has become more widely known than the other. Without the first you wouldn’t have the second.

]]> By: jambon http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4613 jambon Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:58:03 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4613 As much as the the film of Minority Report missed the point, this is a site for movies; the age old film or book debate is surely moot As much as the the film of Minority Report missed the point, this is a site for movies; the age old film or book debate is surely moot

]]> By: Alan Rapp http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4605 Alan Rapp Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:04:21 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4605 Man you totally had me with this list (though I would have dropped AI to the bottom for its ending), but then I got to #1. Minority Report is just awful! If you haven't read the original short story by Philip K. Dick do so, the film does a complete 180 on its premise and point (which is tragic and heartbreaking). I remember reading an interview by one of the screenwriters (I can't remember whether it was Frank or Coen) just after the film came out. In it he discussed reading the story several times and "not getting it" but writing the screenplay anyway. Jeesh! By the way, with the plot the screenplay the title makes no sense what-so-ever! In the story the point is the minority report, is a desenting opinion (in the film it is the same). The reasons for this involve fore-knowledge of the event and human choice, which can effect the outcome, which leads back to a fundamental error in the system. Read the story and throw the DVD in the garbage. Man you totally had me with this list (though I would have dropped AI to the bottom for its ending), but then I got to #1. Minority Report is just awful! If you haven’t read the original short story by Philip K. Dick do so, the film does a complete 180 on its premise and point (which is tragic and heartbreaking). I remember reading an interview by one of the screenwriters (I can’t remember whether it was Frank or Coen) just after the film came out. In it he discussed reading the story several times and “not getting it” but writing the screenplay anyway. Jeesh!

By the way, with the plot the screenplay the title makes no sense what-so-ever! In the story the point is the minority report, is a desenting opinion (in the film it is the same). The reasons for this involve fore-knowledge of the event and human choice, which can effect the outcome, which leads back to a fundamental error in the system.

Read the story and throw the DVD in the garbage.

]]> By: J.D. Warnock http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4591 J.D. Warnock Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:15:30 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4591 That's an interesting theory, and one I had not heard before. I have a friend who totally turned me around on, ironically on another movie starring Tom Cruise, "Eyes Wide Shut," with a similar theory about what is meant to be real and imagined in that film. I love that kind of stuff, maybe someone else out there in Scene-Stealers-land can back up your friend's take. That’s an interesting theory, and one I had not heard before. I have a friend who totally turned me around on, ironically on another movie starring Tom Cruise, “Eyes Wide Shut,” with a similar theory about what is meant to be real and imagined in that film. I love that kind of stuff, maybe someone else out there in Scene-Stealers-land can back up your friend’s take.

]]> By: Reed http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4589 Reed Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:23:24 +0000 http://www.scene-stealers.com/top-10/jds-top-10-movies-that-prove-the-future-will-suck/#comment-4589 I was all anti-Minority Report for a long time. But two weeks ago a friend of mine brought it up and totally changed my opinion. SPOILER ALERT! I always really hated the ending, particularly when they throw in the Tom Cruise voiceover. My friend mentioned that Tim Blake Nelson talks about the prisoners with the halos on them saying, "They say that once you're in there, your dreams come true." And everything had been going horribly awry for Cruise until he was put there. Suddenly it all starts to improve. So the conclusion is that everything that happens from that point on is just in his head (which would explain the possibility of a voiceover). Was I just dense for not figuring this out when I saw the movie? Or is my friend seeing what he wants to see? I was all anti-Minority Report for a long time. But two weeks ago a friend of mine brought it up and totally changed my opinion.

SPOILER ALERT! I always really hated the ending, particularly when they throw in the Tom Cruise voiceover. My friend mentioned that Tim Blake Nelson talks about the prisoners with the halos on them saying, “They say that once you’re in there, your dreams come true.” And everything had been going horribly awry for Cruise until he was put there. Suddenly it all starts to improve. So the conclusion is that everything that happens from that point on is just in his head (which would explain the possibility of a voiceover). Was I just dense for not figuring this out when I saw the movie? Or is my friend seeing what he wants to see?

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